Located in the Catskill mountains, north of New York City, Livingston Manor is a fairly
quiet place these days. Even back during the days I was camping at Onteora, Livingston
Manor wasn't all that busy a place. The railroad had long since closed down and pulled up
track, and other than farming and tourism, I never saw any signs of a local industry.
Today, the overall downturn of tourism in the Catskills hasn't helped things, and the
region has become even sleepier (then again, Rip Van Winkle was from the Catskills!)
|Here's a general map of the area.
Livingston Manor is best reached via NY Route 17, also known as "The
Quickway". It's about a two hour drive from the New York City area.
People who have only been in the metropolitan area will be surprised
how soon the trip gets them into a pleasant rural setting.
|Here's a very different map of the area. This one was
a giant terrazzo map built for the New York State Pavilion at the
1964-1965 New York
World's Fair. Based on an actual Texaco map of the state, the
World's Fair version shows some of the lakes in the area, but for some
reason not Orchard Lake, which is larger than the ones shown. The map
also shows an airport just outside town. I wanted to fly over the area
but didn't have my pilot's license while I was working at camp. The
field closed in the early 1980s so I'll have to find another spot to
rent a plane on a future trip.
Texaco map -1987
|Livingston Manor was a pleasant
spot to head for on a day off as a counselor. During our Order of the
Arrow trips and other visits, the Robin Hood Diner just off Route 17
was a convenient spot to rendezvous with friends before heading up
into the hills for Onteora. If I remember correctly, one of the folks
behind bringing the diner to Livingston Manor was
Niles Fairbairn, who was a colorful
character over at our Alder Lake
The diner is still there today, so
drop in for a hot meal or cold beverage before heading up to camp.
Robin Hood Diner - 1998
|Where's Onteora in relationship to the town
itself? Well, the closest thing on the map is Grooville. I hesitate to call it a
town, for despite many trips through what the maps claim is Grooville, I never saw any
hint of a town! Here's a closer look at the area, showing Orchard Lake, which is located
within the grounds of Onteora. All of the roads shown near the lake are within the camp as
Click here for a map of Onteora itself. Otherwise, click here to head back to the main Onteora page.