Located in the Catskill mountains, north of New York City, Livingston Manor is a fairly quiet place these days. Even back during the days I was camping at Onteora, Livingston Manor wasn't all that busy a place. The railroad had long since closed down and pulled up track, and other than farming and tourism, I never saw any signs of a local industry. Today, the overall downturn of tourism in the Catskills hasn't helped things, and the region has become even sleepier (then again, Rip Van Winkle was from the Catskills!)

Still, Livingston Manor was a pleasant spot to head for on a day off as a counselor. During our Order of the Arrow trips and other visits, the Robin Hood Diner just off Route 17 was a convenient spot to rendezvous with friends before heading up into the hills for Onteora.

Here's a general map of the area:

Where's Onteora in relationship to the town itself? Well, the closest thing on the map is Grooville. I hesitate to call it a town, for despite many trips through what the maps claim is Grooville, I never saw any hint of a town! Here's a closer look at the area, showing Orchard Lake, which is located within the grounds of Onteora. All of the roads shown near the lake are within the camp as well.



Click here for a map of Onteora itself. Otherwise, click here to head back to the main Onteora page.